Saturday, June 24, 2023

Kung fu whether its form or function more important

 Is Wing Tsun real?


Sifu Keith Fain certainly was. But he was trained in many arts besides Wing Tsun.


He taught shaolin gungfu, Wing Tsun Kunfa, Latosa Escrima and Taijiquan.


I only trained Wing Tsun and Latosa Escrima under Keith Fain sifu. And we tested, graded, under sifu Emin Boztepe by having to fight him full contact.


They forever earned my respect.


I don't believe it's a scam combative art but rather very few truly understand it's applications, it's area of operation (extreme close quarters) and even fewer actually spar with it against boxers, kickboxers and grapplers in order to cultivate their art.


Keith Fain sifu had students from various combat sports and eastern fighting arts backgrounds, with credentials or rank in other fighting arts & combat sports, so he regularly sparred them by inviting them to attack him.


He didn't have to strike your face or jab your eyes because he used his legs & hips to steal your lower structure by occupying your space as his arms bridged and trapped your limbs while driving you off balance then throwing you to the ground either by neck clench throw or some other throw.


He also accepted full contact challenges, with legal waivers signed, and only one or two witnesses per challenger. To prevent being jumped like some schools were known to do when they'd bring the whole family into a school to drop a challenge and force anyone who beat one of their members to fight them all til the family prevailed.


So his policy was a challenger could bring one witness, sign a legal waiver, no rules and no weapons.


In fact two of his students he acquired by beating them in this manner. I was told this by one of the two during training. Sifu never boasted of anything. His long time students told me what they seen him do or experienced when challenging him.


I only friendly sparred him but I experienced enough to know he could've dominated me, as long as he seen me coming. He was a fighter, not just a curator of forms, drills and techniques.


If a man actually fights or even spars with his art against different types of fighters (mainly boxers, thai boxers and grapplers) that man will cultivate his art into a functional application.


It's not the art. It's the person who teaches it and who practices it. That's where the fakeness comes in. The self deception.






You only get good at fighting by fighting. Not by only doing drills and sparring against students whose attack is  exactly like your martial art attacks.


If you can't apply your defense against a trained boxer or grappler you don't know your art. That belt, sash, trophy or certificate don't mean you can fight or survive against combat sportsmen in a physical altercation outside of the sporting environment.


Some roid raging MMA cage fighter like War-Machine thinks you disrespected him, took his parking spot, or smiled at his girlfriend so he decides to rip his shirt off and break your face like you're his unfaithful, porn star, girlfriend it would behoove you to know you can apply your training against someone not of your school in a live combat situation that could be life threatening.


If you only practice Wing Chun against Wing Chun, Kara Te against Kara Te, Jiujitsu against Jiujitsu or Judo against Judo then you'll only become skilled at defending against your own style.


A Grappler or a Wing Tsun practitioner should spar full contact against a golden glove boxer or Muay Thai fighter.


A golden glove boxer, Wing Tsun practitioner or Thai fighter should spar full contact against a Collegiate FolkWrestler, Judoka blackbelt and a BJJ player.


The modern culture of all martial artists respecting other martial artists by never challenging them, even if they're clearly frauds, has facilitated the modern phenomena within the martial arts community of paper tigers and verbal defamation of character attacks for personal, political and business agendas.


In the not too distant past, particularly in the far east, a teacher had to be ready and willing to accept a challenge from any rival school or from any dubious person whom wished to test the teacher and his art to see if it had merit before becoming a student and paying hard earned money to a teacher.


They didn't buy a car before testing it, so to speak, and rival schools would not let you peddle a fake art to the naive public to create paper tigers. They tested you as soon as it got out that you were teaching.


Where I grew up if it got around that you trained any kind of combat sport or martial art you would get chin checked by some rough guys, usually by crip gang members, by some project housing authority residents or some other seasoned street fighting bullies.

Sifu Emin Boztepe, the head of the AWTO which we were affiliated with and he tested, graded, us.


UFC fighters Tony Ferguson and Anderson Silva cross train in Leung Ting Wing Tsun and often successfully apply trapping hands during their professional bouts against professional MMA fighters. . . but lets propogate the narrative that all Wing Tsun is equal and all Wing Tsun is fake simply because someone found videos of unskilled, unseasoned, students losing a duel against a seasoned MMA competitor.


Any student, even an MMA student, will catch hands if they're unseasoned in full contact sparring.


The school where I trained under sifu Keith Fain required bareknuckle sparring.


During testing our head sifu Emen Boztepe wore jeet kun do type gloves and students went bare knuckle as we were ordered to fight him full contact.


Most Wing Chun/Wing Tsun schools do not train this way.


But I'll invite keyboard warriors to study Tony Ferguson's and Anderson Silva's UFC bouts where they successfully incorporate Wing Tsun trapping hands into their MMA.


Tell Tony Ferguson and Anderson Silva that Wing Tsun is fake and useless in unarmed combat.


Only when it's in the UFC will the non-fighters believe it. So here we have evidence of Wing Tsun successfully incorporated into MMA and used in the UFC.


You're welcome. Enjoy.


Is Wing Chun effective if I know other martial arts via coordination and parry techniques?

Can you learn Wing Chun without a teacher?

What is the definition of a Sifu in Wing Chun?

Why do many people disregard Wing Chun as not effective, when clearly there are some very excellent traits?

What's the Wing Chun level to become an instructor? I intend to go for Wing Chun in order to learn and teach, and I'd like to know if I can teach even if I'm a level 2 Wing Chun practitioner.

Now ive been viewing a dance performance performed by shenzhen opera and dance company.its called wing chun and showcases 5 forms of chinese kung fu from shaolin lin to boxing to tai chi.its fluid and mesmerising but just form without function.

What is martial arts but a form of self defence but if you can execute all the postures but cant protect yourself from being attacked,then whats the point of learning martial arts. Thats why people like the challenge of kung fu artists by MMA fighters who thrash them in real combat.the movies made in hong kong about the life of wing chun founder Ip Man has managed to inspire many foreigners to learn kung fu as has movies by Bruce Lee.so the way to propagate and spread the soft power of chinese culture is through film making,cultural lifestyle like drinking tea and calligraphy or teaching kung fu like tai chi and wing chun and tcm treatment like acupunture and tuina.



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